@j5lx Hey man, first of all by no means I think we should stop using IRC, at least for the devs.
However our userbase is very heterogeneous in regards of open source adoption, many use Pencil2D for being free, nothing more. I understand what you’re saying though, both from the open source perspective and from the “hype” perspective, however if you notice with FOSS projects like Godot Game Engine, there are startups like GDQuest who are heavily using discord in a succesful manner to communicate with their open source community. They literally have hundreds of people daily communicating over, that’s why i created a discord account, because I helped fundraising the game engine course and I wanted to voice my opinion over there.
I think in the end, open source is about providing sensible options to everyone, being open and reaching out. It’s true that discord is closed as in we can’t tinker with the source.
Discord has a desktop app for windows, mac os and linux plus a mobile app for android and ios. https://discordapp.com/download You don’t have to use it on a browser and in fact they recommend you use the desktop app if possible. Browser is just another possibility and they do seem to care enough to provide many options despite being closed source.
However from a corporate perspective on Pencil2D, the fact that they provide free server hosting for either text of voice channels helps a lot since we don’t have the resources to purchase one. And they don’t have ads either. Right now I honestly don’t know how they pay their infrastructure.
Nowadays I don’t have any control over the forum aside from moderating, nor the web I can’t make use of the mailing list to bring attention to announcements, only the webmaster does and he’s very busy from what I can see since I’ve tried to contact him a lot and it’s been near impossible.
From a communications perspective I can only rally people through the facebook page, or tumblr blog, which sadly also have closed sources. A lot of the people that seem to register daily are actually spambots caught by akismet, many of the real users don’t look at the forum anymore.
The reality we’re facing nowadays is that a majority of our users utilize closed source communication applications, like twitter, facebook, instagram, tumblr, and so forth. Very few people will go to the extent of re-registering to an open source social network just for one project and as such it would be hard to measure how many were left out diminishing our capability to gain critical mass with each announcement. This is particularly true if they already have habits of using such closed source apps like twitter, or facebook to get their news.
I mentioned you guys in here because Nick said he wanted to provide an alternative to communication and he asked if anyone wanted to be given administrative roles. Even if some choose not to use it, which is perfectly fine, others might think differently.
I’ll look into Mumble too, and I’ve used Teamspeak in the past, although to a lesser extent, however as an individual thinking on how to setup a community, until I don’t know the extent of our reach I can’t think of looking to pay for a server to host chats like this and using my computer is out of the question for the moment i’m afraid. There should be other solutions but it will take time before I can look into them.
Lastly thank you for voicing your concern and opinion. It is important to hear each comment since we are just starting out to build the foundations of a better community, and every opinion counts. Have a wonderful weekend!