# What is "Extend Frame" **URL:** \ **Category:** Development\ **Created:** [12 June 2013 15:01 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/what-is-extend-frame/475 "2013-06-12T15:01:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chchwy](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/chchwy/32/126_2.png) [@chchwy](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/chchwy)\ **Post date:** [12 June 2013 15:01 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/what-is-extend-frame/475/1 "2013-06-12T15:01:03Z")
Hi all, Does anyone know what is “Extend Frame” in “Animation” menu? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![connors](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/connors/32/15_2.png) [@connors](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/connors)\ **Post date:** [12 June 2013 18:54 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/what-is-extend-frame/475/2 "2013-06-12T18:54:10Z")
I’m not sure what menu you’re talking about can you be more specific? ---
**Author:** ![gordie](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/a5b964/32.png) [@gordie](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/gordie)\ **Post date:** [13 June 2013 00:46 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/what-is-extend-frame/475/3 "2013-06-13T00:46:57Z")
I don’t have the software running here so I can’t check, but this is maybe a way to extend a frame ? eg. if an image is 1 frame long; --\> 2 frames ? ---
**Author:** ![chchwy](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/chchwy/32/126_2.png) [@chchwy](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/chchwy)\ **Post date:** [13 June 2013 02:49 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/what-is-extend-frame/475/4 "2013-06-13T02:49:24Z")
![extend-frame](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7996808/pencil-extend-frame.png) I means this item, it seems always disabled. if it doesn’t work, I will remove it from the menu. ---
**Author:** ![gordie](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/a5b964/32.png) [@gordie](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/gordie)\ **Post date:** [13 June 2013 11:48 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/what-is-extend-frame/475/5 "2013-06-13T11:48:49Z")
Or maybe is it in this idea… ![FEATURE REQUEST - more keyframe tools](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/uploads/default/original/1X/690f9d691a9c27520032d6dde2b1cbd1f4c85c8d.jpg) (this was a feature request I made on [pencil-animation.com](http://pencil-animation.com), but it’s probably an idea someone already had before me) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/uploads/default/original/2X/b/be472d9d9c3e92d2432da03a00b781a7f15bc51b.png) [@system](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [25 June 2013 20:05 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/what-is-extend-frame/475/6 "2013-06-25T20:05:14Z")
Gordie was right! It’s for extending frames. In flash, F5 extends the frames without creating new keys and Shift-F5 shorten the extended frames. The timeline concept was similar to flash, as I can see. ---
**Author:** ![chchwy](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/chchwy/32/126_2.png) [@chchwy](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/chchwy)\ **Post date:** [26 June 2013 02:08 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/what-is-extend-frame/475/7 "2013-06-26T02:08:34Z")
ok, but in Pencil, key frame is auto extend until another key frame appear. I’ll remove this button in next version. ---
**Author:** ![JoseMoreno](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/josemoreno/32/7_2.png) [@JoseMoreno](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/JoseMoreno)\ **Post date:** [30 June 2013 18:22 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/what-is-extend-frame/475/8 "2013-06-30T18:22:18Z")
Hey there Matt, the thing is that usually when you’re doing classical animation, you are bound to have 1 (singles), 2 (doubles) , 3 (thirds) or a set amount of “exposures” or frames per single drawing. If you’re going to remove the manual frame extend functionality, then it would be nice in the future to be able to visualize the existing automatic frame extension whenever a new keyframe was placed, and to determine numerically (e.g. number input) the amount of frames that the animator wants his /her drawing to be shown in the timeline. This is useful for example when you’re doing holds, in which you need one of your character layers (say the body) to stay static for say 6 seconds or 144 frames, and you just can’t bother counting that amount in the timeline while animating his arms, head and stuff. Well just a thought, dont know if i should comment this in the feature request rather than as a response to this thread haha, anyway keep up the great work!. ---
**Author:** ![chchwy](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/chchwy/32/126_2.png) [@chchwy](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/chchwy)\ **Post date:** [1 July 2013 03:15 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/what-is-extend-frame/475/9 "2013-07-01T03:15:59Z")
Thank you, @morr. It’s a good suggestion, I’ll consider to implement it.