# MyPaint version pre-alpha preview **URL:** \ **Category:** Development\ **Created:** [14 September 2016 20:00 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185 "2016-09-14T20:00:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![MrStevns](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/mrstevns/32/1875_2.png) [@MrStevns](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/MrStevns)\ **Post date:** [14 November 2020 19:49 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/183 "2020-11-14T19:49:21Z")
Ah… how odd I wasn’t able to reproduce that earlier… been using the hand tool plenty. Should be fixed now. ---
**Author:** ![JoseMoreno](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/josemoreno/32/7_2.png) [@JoseMoreno](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/JoseMoreno)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2020 04:40 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/184 "2020-11-15T04:40:28Z")
Just wanted to show two issues I just saw with today’s version. Hope it’s visible on the vid, thanks for all the hard work 👋 [https://streamable.com/4it1qg](https://streamable.com/4it1qg) ---
**Author:** ![MrStevns](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/mrstevns/32/1875_2.png) [@MrStevns](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/MrStevns)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2020 11:19 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/185 "2020-11-15T11:19:37Z")
I’ve merged with master now and everything looks like it’s still working. Please try out the latest build and see if you experience the same problem. Windows 64 bit: > **[pencil2d-win64-implement\_mypaint\_nobitmapsurface-2020-11-15.zip](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fgyt4fxirXOaxrocGfNfUJ4ouqzx1QPj/view?usp=sharing)** > > Google Drive file. ---
**Author:** ![Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a88e4f/32.png) [@Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/Popolon)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2020 19:54 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/186 "2020-11-19T19:54:06Z")
I noticed a bug that is not a in the current non-mypaint git: when I move the canvas (by secondary button on stylus or the right mouse button) the cursor become the moving hand, and is still the hand after release. The tool window still show the current sectioned tool but I can’t draw anymore. I need to click again on the tool or use the shortcut to be able to draw again. ---
**Author:** ![kaiko](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/kaiko/32/165_2.png) [@kaiko](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/kaiko)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2020 21:08 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/187 "2020-11-19T21:08:20Z")
This is an issue that was already reported. Not sure where it was posted. Your experience playing with this bug was copy/paste of mine ---
**Author:** ![kaiko](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/kaiko/32/165_2.png) [@kaiko](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/kaiko)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2020 21:16 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/188 "2020-11-19T21:16:33Z")
Nice animation @Popolon. It reminds me of the animation El Viejo y el Mar Well done really 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a88e4f/32.png) [@Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/Popolon)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2020 00:16 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/189 "2020-11-20T00:16:05Z")
Ah, thank you I really like this film, I think the author used ~~dry pastels~~ (edit : [oil pastel on glass](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Man_and_the_Sea_(1999_film)#History_and_technique)). and « [l’homme qui plantait des arbres](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzjqptmoEqE) » (El Hombre que Plantaba Árboles) from Frederic Back, after Jean Giono Free (as free software) novel. It can be take as an allegory of free software makers. I made this very quickly, thanks to Mypaint brush in Pencil2D, I hope to make at least another one with another kind of brushes, before starting something longer. ---
**Author:** ![kaiko](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/kaiko/32/165_2.png) [@kaiko](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/kaiko)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2020 06:08 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/190 "2020-11-20T06:08:25Z")
It was a crazy film… all done painting over glass (it can be pastel)… I will check those names you wrote… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kaiko](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/kaiko/32/165_2.png) [@kaiko](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/kaiko)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2020 20:19 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/191 "2020-11-20T20:19:04Z")
@MrStevnsI found a bug in mypaint brunch. 1. Open Pencil2D, activate both onionskin feature (with its colour feature also checked) 2. Draw a line over 5 frames as a reference. Using the shortcut key [,/.] move the scrub to the first frame #1 going through all other frames. The onion skin will display the red onion skin tone of those lines. 3. Now move the cursor to the last frame #5. There is no sign of the blue onion skin, despite it is checked. ---
**Author:** ![MrStevns](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/mrstevns/32/1875_2.png) [@MrStevns](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/MrStevns)\ **Post date:** [21 November 2020 13:24 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/192 "2020-11-21T13:24:59Z")
Thanks for reporting guys 🙂 New build coming up: - Fixed temporary tool stopped working after merge with master - Fixed onion skin not updated after adding new frames, because cache wasn’t updated properly. ---
**Author:** ![Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a88e4f/32.png) [@Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/Popolon)\ **Post date:** [21 November 2020 20:19 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/193 "2020-11-21T20:19:25Z")
New bug, that could come from current mainline, both MyPaint branch and mainline are affected, not officialy stable. I worked with the mypaint branch on a background, then i was out of memory (i should uprade my ram, or launch less things in //. pencil2d crashed I can’t open back the file, with the last main branch and mypaint branch. It works with stable version It open at 40% then crash. I can unzip the file, everything is fine, I opened it and save it again with stable version, to be sure to have everything clean, it still crash with last version. Another file, made with mypaint mainline git version, made both pencil2d mainline & mypaint crash. here is my workfile [Neflier.pclx](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/uploads/short-url/ppVt5QETbNhD3LpkbB5042eGczN.pclx) (1.1 MB) Background image, made with MyPaint tools in pencil2d ![003.001](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/uploads/default/original/1X/8e30dcad9bd5fb955e8474c23c2ca93a5890587f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MrStevns](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/mrstevns/32/1875_2.png) [@MrStevns](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/MrStevns)\ **Post date:** [22 November 2020 10:01 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/194 "2020-11-22T10:01:48Z")
- Fixed a bug that would crash the application because we’re checking layer before setting object. @Popolon try again. - Added new “active” settings entry to brush configurator, now you can conveniently see which settings are active in one place. ---
**Author:** ![Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a88e4f/32.png) [@Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/Popolon)\ **Post date:** [22 November 2020 12:09 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/195 "2020-11-22T12:09:06Z")
Nice, work perfectly, thank you very much. ---
**Author:** ![MrStevns](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/mrstevns/32/1875_2.png) [@MrStevns](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/MrStevns)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2020 18:48 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/196 "2020-12-07T18:48:42Z")
New noteworthy announcement ### Brush Preview ![image](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/uploads/default/original/1X/707b9a8bc3c459bc9e01c196fcd70b6a22cd45a3.png) First version of the new brush preview feature which has been cooking for the past few days. it will be now be much easier and faster to create custom brushes, since you will be able to see the result immediately. - Big strokes can freeze UI periodically, though there’s a threshold so eventually you should be able change values again. Other measurements are also made to make sure that the UI stays as responsive as possible. ### Mapping visuals ![image](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/uploads/default/original/1X/24cfc029005d5c9eb73d8e9f98ad6b3ba4dd5ae3.png)The mapping widget got a cosmetic overhaul. The palette is based on your system, so in my case the highlight is blue but it will adapt to whatever your theme is. The icons and layout is still WIP but I wanted to show some of the progress that’s been made lately. Builds are as always available for windows > **[CandyFace/pencil](https://github.com/CandyFace/pencil)** > > implement\_mypaint\_nobitmapsurface For the curious developers, the code is available on my branch: > **[Win64 – Google Drive](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7zQuPZEO_64UDVrZFkzZmhSSmc)** ---
**Author:** ![Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a88e4f/32.png) [@Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/Popolon)\ **Post date:** [8 December 2020 20:55 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/197 "2020-12-08T20:55:15Z")
Very nice improvement. I noticed, that at the same time we can draw (and undo with ctrl-z) on canvas, that is really interesting at the same time, see it in action, and to see what is the definition in the window. Thanks a lot :). ---
**Author:** ![kaiko](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/kaiko/32/165_2.png) [@kaiko](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/kaiko)\ **Post date:** [14 December 2020 23:52 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/198 "2020-12-14T23:52:22Z")
Hi @MrStevns Here a suggestion for a small improvement on the user interface of the Color Box’s panel. What about to add a small color swatch next to the **color wheel** showing the actual color selected? We have a big swatch on the **Color Inspector’s panel** , but as I like to work only with the color wheel, it would be faster and more intuitive to just glance the real color near the wheel… ---
**Author:** ![Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a88e4f/32.png) [@Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/Popolon)\ **Post date:** [2 January 2021 15:46 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/199 "2021-01-02T15:46:20Z")
Happy new year all. I agree with the comment of Kaiko, I would ask for a similar feature to avoid to have the color inspector, I use rarely but still have the current active color displayed. I believe I tried to do animation at higher level than my own, and was discouraged by final result and push me toward a lot of procrastination. I will start back to simple animation, working more on MyPaint rendering, until I have more experience. ---
**Author:** ![Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a88e4f/32.png) [@Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/Popolon)\ **Post date:** [3 January 2021 22:48 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/200 "2021-01-03T22:48:34Z")
So a simple test, with a little bit of texture. It worked fine, during the work. ![cube_gelatine](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/uploads/default/original/1X/344dceed7b65fbc84efb47bbd8090cec88f8a4e7.gif) ---
**Author:** ![kaiko](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/user_avatar/discuss.pencil2d.org/kaiko/32/165_2.png) [@kaiko](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/kaiko)\ **Post date:** [4 January 2021 00:40 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/201 "2021-01-04T00:40:16Z")
Hi again @MrStevns I found an issue with the onion skin activated. I just opened Pencil2D (my paint version, since the original version is working ok) and it happened to have the _ **NextFrame** _ onion skin **activated** (didn’t notice at first) and started laying lines of different colours over the canvas but at the end all colour lines showed a different colour, a darkest one. Noticed that a middle grey colour was added to all colour lines. When selecting **“white”** on the colour wheel and then drawing a line on the **white** canvas, it will lay down a middle grey colour line. ---
**Author:** ![Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a88e4f/32.png) [@Popolon](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/u/Popolon)\ **Post date:** [4 January 2021 12:29 UTC](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185/202 "2021-01-04T12:29:40Z")
I found a problem, not really a bug, that is also in mainline, with a different result: Need at least 2 frames, for example: - Draw a frame - Draw a second frame Then - go to first frame and start to draw, press the shortcut to go to next frame (keyboard or tablet) =\> in case of mainline, the draw will be validated on the second one, in case of mypaint, version, it will draw a rectangle containing memory from elsewhere and added touch. A good solution, could be to lock frame changes until draw is pressed. or (perhaps better ?) for user that want to draw on several frames in one touch, validate draw part, then change frame, and continue on the new frame ? [Previous page](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185.md?page=9) [Next page](https://discuss.pencil2d.org/t/mypaint-version-pre-alpha-preview/1185.md?page=11)